Feminist author Meghan Murphy, who had a large following on Twitter, was recently removed from that platform because of what appear to be fairly innocuous Tweets related to transgenderism, and even lost a book contract as well. The incident highlighted divisions among feminists regarding transgender issues.

Show notes for Ep. 1301

In this episode I talk a bit about Trump, then about the cause of the boom-bust cycle, then entrepreneurship, and then public speaking.

Quite a potpourri -- and a darn good one, if I may say so. This episode is drawn from my recent appearance on the Justin Mohr Show.

Show notes for Ep. 1300

David Stockman, who served as director of the Office of Management and Budget under Ronald Reagan, shares reflections and anecdotes about the late George H.W. Bush. We then discuss how the Fed, rather than trade deals, has been harming America. (And also: why I won our gentlemen's bet....)

Show notes for Ep. 1299

With the passing of former president George H.W. Bush, we've heard much talk of his having been an underrated president. Daniel McCarthy joins me to offer his assessment.

Show notes for Ep. 1298

Allen Mendenhall holds a Ph.D. in English from Auburn University as well as two law degrees (from Temple and West Virginia). He is an associate dean at Faulkner University's Thomas Goode Jones School of Law and executive director of the Blackstone & Burke Center for Law & Liberty.

Show notes for Ep. 1297

Leah Farrow and Josh Griffin, co-hosts of the No Regerts podcast, join me to discuss the history of tattoos and the state, regulation and self-regulation, and a lot more.

Show notes for Ep. 1296

This week David Stockman, director of the Office of Management and Budget under Ronald Reagan, made some comments about the problems with what he called Donald Trump's "statism," and with Federal Reserve policy. He was immediately barraged with criticism from Trump supporters who thought he was a "liberal" (as if liberals are concerned about statism or Fed policy). In this episode I discuss what it all means, particularly in light of what Scott Adams told us two episodes ago.

Show notes for Ep. 1295

Jordan Page, musician of the Ron Paul Revolution, just released "The Ballad of Lavoy Finicum," about a man who was shot and killed by Oregon state troopers in 2016 (Jordan tells the story). We also take a few moments to discuss Jordan's appearance at the #WalkAway march in Washington.

Show notes for Ep. 1294

Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert, joins me to discuss the Trump phenomenon and what people missed about it (and therefore why they didn't see his victory coming), plus democracy, persuasion, debating, Hillary Clinton, and plenty more.

Show notes for Ep. 1293

James Tooley has both chronicled and contributed to the extraordinary phenomenon, unknown to almost everyone, of low-cost private schools in the developing world. He's now bringing this model to England itself, his home country, and he's already got people talking. Of course, the usual suspects are trying to throw obstacles in his way, because his low-cost model is obviously an embarrassment to them. A truly wonderful discussion.

Show notes for Ep. 1292

Scott Horton and I discuss World War I and its hideous legacy. Also: why the Progressives favored intervention, what the Social Gospel clergy had to say, where Hitler came from, and a lot more.

This episode is drawn from my recent appearance on on the Scott Horton Show.

Show notes for Ep. 1291

A 9-year-old boy wrote me a letter not long ago, part of which asked me about politics, because he describes himself as "very interested in running for president someday." Jeff Deist and I discussed the kind of things children that age might want to think about when it comes to politics, without turning them into 9-year-old cynics.

Show notes for Ep. 1290

In this episode my colleague Bob Murphy interviews me about everything from public speaking (and my tips) to my resentments (and how I overcame them), our religious differences, my major contribution to the historical profession (not a joke!), and a lot more. One of my all-time favorite episodes.

This episode is drawn from my appearance on the very first episode of the Bob Murphy Show.

Show notes for Ep. 1289

In recent years researchers have discovered therapeutic uses for psilocybin mushrooms where the results have been extraordinary. Kevin Matthews of Decriminalize Denver joins me to discuss these findings, current law, and what the law should be.

Show notes for Ep. 1288

Show notes for Ep. 1287

You know you've really mastered a topic if you can explain it to a complete beginner and be understood. You've truly mastered it if you can convey the basic idea even to a child. And that's precisely what the Tuttle Twins book series accomplishes. The most recent volume in the series takes Murray Rothbard's classic essay "The Anatomy of the State" and presents its basic ideas to a young audience.

Show notes for Ep. 1286

Ever since it became known that acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker has spoken favorably about the right of the states to nullify unconstitutional federal laws, we've been treated to a barrage of the usual third-grade arguments from people we are supposed to consider our intellectual superiors. We'll have some fun with those in this episode.

Show notes for Ep. 1285

Nullification -- and indeed anything involving the states -- is all about slavery, right? What a surprise: the propagandists are wrong again. In this episode, the Tenth Amendment Center's Michael Boldin joins me for some forgotten history: how northerners expressly used the language of nullification and state sovereignty to fight against slavery.

Show notes for Ep. 1284

According to the survey we ran for the Freedom Feud game aboard the Contra Cruise, the #2 most popular guest on the Tom Woods Show is Scott Horton, the great foreign-policy expert. This time, though, we discuss his background, his evolution, how he became a libertarian and foreign-policy expert, and a lot more.

Show notes for Ep. 1283

Elliot Resnick and Gene Epstein debate the resolution: "Israel should keep every inch of land it currently possesses."

Show notes for Ep. 1282

World War I was a catastrophe for Western civilization. One hundred years ago, on November 11th, it finally came to an end. Author and historian Hunt Tooley joins me for an assessment of the wars long-term consequences for all of us.

Show notes for Ep. 1281

Were the midterm elections of repudiation of Trump, a mixed bag, or even an endorsement of Trump? What can we expect over the next two years, and what are the Democrats likely to do in 2020? Dan McCarthy, editor-at-large of The American Conservative and current editor of Modern Age, helps answer these questions.

Show notes for Ep. 1280

John F. ("Jack") McManus, longtime president of the John Birch Society, joins me to discuss the Society's founding and history, its controversial positions, its clashes with William F. Buckley and official conservatism, and its present activities.

Show notes for Ep. 1279

In today's episode I review some of the golden nuggets from the previous 600 or so episodes. Fascinating people and ideas you may have missed -- and even if you didn't miss them, it couldn't hurt to hear about them again.

Show notes for Ep. 1278

Neoclassical economics insists that a separate class of goods, called "public goods," cannot, because of their peculiar characteristics, be efficiently provided by the market and must instead be financed and produced by the state. The Austrian School rejects this line of argument. Today Jakub Wisniewski, author of a new book on the subject, takes on public goods theory and addresses the two toughest cases: law and defense services on the market.

Show notes for Ep. 1277

Paul Counts has been an entrepreneur since he began selling pencils at age 8. He's been making his living online for 19 years. He knows both the tech side and the marketing side inside and out -- a rare combination. (I've purchased a lot of his training programs myself.) Since I met Paul in Orlando last March, we've partnered up on several projects together. He's very successful online and (as I've discovered for myself) extremely knowledgeable, so I thought I'd give you good folks a chance to hear from him.

Show notes for Ep. 1276

In this episode I delve into some myths and truths of U.S. monetary history, from the colonial period through the creation of the Federal Reserve. The second part is a treat: some audio footage, recorded on the Contra Cruise, of Bob, Tatiania Moroz, and I as contestants in the Crypto Quiz Show, hosted by Naomi Brockwell.

Show notes for Ep. 1275

Lysander Spooner, the great 19th-century individualist anarchist, evidently wrote on banking and currency competition, but those works had been lost until now. Phil Magness, through some clever detective work, tracked them down and they're now available, published via the American Institute for Economic Research! (They also shed light on whether Spooner sympathized with socialism or left-libertarianism.)

Show notes for Ep. 1274

Donald Trump has indicated his desire to overturn the practice of birthright citizenship, a position Ron Paul and Rand Paul alike have long held. Opponents claim the Fourteenth Amendment requires birthright citizenship. Does it?

Show notes for Ep. 1273

Fresh off his Soho Forum debate victory (as measured by Oxford-style rules) against Jacobin magazine editor Bhaskar Sunkara, Gene Epstein joins me for a review of the event and the arguments that gave his opponent so much difficulty.

Show notes for Ep. 1272

Why, the reason so many college professors have identical thoughts and hold the same political positions is that they are very smart and all these thoughts and positions are just the logical outcomes of sound thinking.

Or that's how left-liberals interpret the situation. I, on the other hand, offer a dissenting voice.

Show notes for Ep. 1271

Here's where we libertarians are most often ridiculed -- why, the monetary system we favor is for cranks, they say, and what's more, it's already been tried! Uh huh. In this episode I make the case for money the state can't control.

Show notes for Ep. 1270

Ten years after the financial crisis, the standard story still dominates: "deregulation" caused it. This is not even slightly true. It's urgent that we get this right, and not let the Fed's apologists (and the simply lazy) get away with this comic-book answer that encourages all the wrong kinds of policy responses.

Show notes for Ep. 1269

Mark Skousen joins me to discuss highlights and lowlights of the history of economic thought, and what we can learn from both.

Show notes for Ep. 1268

The Facebook purges continue, with recent victims including the Free Thought Project (3.1 million likes), Police the Police (1.9 million likes), and V is for Voluntary (165,000 likes). I speak to the folks behind these three pages today.

Show notes for Ep. 1267

Jim Epstein of Reason TV just released a mini-documentary on the effects of the coming $15 minimum wage on one particular sector of the New York economy, and it's devastating.

Show notes for Ep. 1266

Last week I spoke to a small gathering in Orlando of members of the Libertarian Party of Florida. Alex Merced, vice chair of the national party, spoke before me and introduced me. He spoke about his journey to libertarianism. I in turn asked what it is about libertarianism that it typically requires a journey to reach. If I told you my answer in the notes, that would take all the fun out of it. But I'll say that I'm pretty sure you will enjoy my conclusion.

Show notes for Ep. 1265

Note the difference in reaction between telling someone you're going to college (congratulations and warm wishes) and telling someone you're taking a different path (skeptical line of questioning). T.K. Coleman joins me to smack down the typical line of questioning.

Show notes for Ep. 1264

Matt Welch, editor-at-large of Reason magazine, joins me to discuss his background, how his views evolved, the state of the Libertarian Party, his experiences in eastern Europe, and a lot more.

Show notes for Ep. 1263

The great Eric Peters returns with further updates from the world of automobiles. You don't have to be a car aficionado to benefit from Eric's knowledge, and as always we have an entertaining and informative conversation!

Show notes for Ep. 1262

Philosopher Jim Otteson and I discuss his book Actual Ethics (Cambridge University Press), which advances a vigorous moral defense of the classical liberal, or libertarian, political tradition. We also discuss the claims of Peter Singer, who claims it is morally obligatory on each of us to give substantial aid to peoples overseas.

Show notes for Ep. 1261

A recent post on a libertarian Facebook page suggested that only blind ideologues would dispute that the war in Afghanistan has been a success. After all, local polling data finds satisfaction with the U.S. invasion and occupation, and conditions there have certainly improved. Scott Horton, author of Fool's Errand: Time to End the War in Afghanistan, joins me to assess these claims.

Show notes for Ep. 1260

Neoconservative historian and Council on Foreign Relations fellow Max Boot recently called on Americans, Republicans in particular, to vote a straight Democrat ticket in November. He just released a book called The Corrosion of Conservatism: Why I Left the Right. He's been writing and tweeting his regrets about not perceiving his white privilege sooner. (That's not a joke.) Paul Gottfried joins me to discuss what it all means.

Show notes for Ep. 1259

Janice Fiamengo joins me to discuss the untold stories of how feminism has actually affected society and relationships, and the reality turns out to be rather different from the cartoon.

Show notes for Ep. 1257

Walter Block is one of the world's most prolific libertarian scholars. But recently he's managed to outdo himself. He just reached a milestone that no other scholar anywhere can come close to matching, and it's why Walter is such a treasure to our movement. Listen and be inspired.

Show notes for Ep. 1256

...is that they're government police. Is there a way to insert some good old-fashioned competition into police services?

Show notes for Ep. 1255

Dave Smith, the popular comedian and host of the Part of the Problem podcast, joins me to try to get to the bottom of the situation with Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, accused of sexual assault by Christine Blasey Ford.

Show notes for Ep. 1252

Michael Huemer is a professor of philosophy at the University of Colorado at Boulder and the author of the outstanding libertarian book The Problem of Political Authority. Today he discusses his work in "ethical intuitionism," which holds that (1) there are objective moral truths; (2) we know these through an immediate, intellectual awareness, or 'intuition'; and (3) knowing them gives us reasons to act independent of our desires.

Show notes for Ep. 1251

Today Hillsdale College's Brad Birzer joins me to discuss his new book, In Defense of Andrew Jackson. We discuss Indian policy, the national bank, nullification, and more.

Show notes for Ep. 1250

Joseph Stiglitz is something of a celebrity economist, yet he's been grotesquely wrong both economically and morally so often. His case tells us a lot about the American establishment if he is the kind of person they hold up for our admiration. Gene Epstein joins me for the gruesome details.

Show notes for Ep. 1249

Brent DeRidder of the Liberty Coalition for Disaster Relief discusses voluntary efforts to assist with recovery from natural disasters, particularly Hurricane Florence.

Show notes for Ep. 1248

Stefan Molyneux's work has had nearly half a billion views and hundreds of millions of downloads. He has stirred up controversy among libertarians in recent years, having supported Donald Trump and entertained more controversial topics. So I decided to raise some of these criticisms with him and give him an opportunity to say whatever he liked. The result is this episode, in which (unusual for the Tom Woods Show) the two of us appear together on video.

Show notes for Ep. 1246

Ross Trottier, a music and guitar teacher (and a Tom Woods Show listener), who now has a thriving online and offline business, went through a period of homelessness and had to start from nothing. How did he crack the online code, sell thousands and thousands of copies of his book, get over a million views of his videos, and enjoy a far more comfortable life than probably any music teacher you know?

Show notes for Ep. 1245

Michael Rectenwald, a lifelong leftist, has found himself shunned by former friends and colleagues -- even people whose careers he helped advance -- because he criticized and satirized some of the more outlandish SJW behavior on his Twitter feed. (Yes, this is the emotional level of these folks -- they're angry about his Twitter feed.)

But the best part is: what is Rectenwald reading these days?

There's a (somewhat) happy ending here, folks.

Show notes for Ep. 1244

Antony Sammeroff, co-host of the Scottish Liberty Podcast, argues that the idea of a Universal Basic Income is a very bad one, and for reasons you may not have thought of.

Show notes for Ep. 1243

AJ+, a division of Al Jazeera, has a popular social media presence and makes widely viewed videos -- nearly all of them dreadfully wrong -- on a variety of topics. And man are they wrong about libertarianism. Since I haven't done a good smackdown in a while, well, you see where this is going.

Show notes for Ep. 1242

Andrew Bacevich, professor emeritus of International Relations and History at Boston University, joins me to discuss the bad ideas and habits at the heart of American foreign policy.

Show notes for Ep. 1241

In this episode I discuss earlier recessions and depressions in U.S. history, and what lessons we might draw from them. Hint: these are not the lessons that were drummed into our impressionable heads as students.

Show notes for Ep. 1240

Dan McCarthy, editor of the venerable conservative journal Modern Age, joins me to discuss two very different books with the same title: Suicide of the West, one by Jonah Goldberg and the other by an older conservative named James Burnham.

Show notes for Ep. 1238

I'm in New York City, as it happens, on the 17th anniversary of the attacks of 9/11. In today's episode I review the blowback theory and review the ledger of U.S. foreign policy since that time.

Show notes for Ep. 1237

This one packs a punch: one statist superstition after another is pounded into dust.

Show notes for Ep. 1236

The founder and chairman of the Mises Institute joins me for some great questions from my Supporting Listeners: where he sees us having success, what he thinks of the New York Times op-ed by the anonymous "senior official," how he became Ron Paul's chief of staff, why he doesn't bother defending himself against left-libertarians, his views on the crisis in the Catholic Church, what he would have done differently if he were starting the Mises Institute today -- plus, the man who ordered him not to start the Mises Institute, and more.

Show notes for Ep. 1235

Former CIA officer Phil Giraldi joins me to discuss the creepy op-ed in the New York Times yesterday by a "senior official" in the Trump Administration who claims to be part of a movement trying to undermine the president from within, particularly in his diplomatic overtures.

Show notes for Ep. 1234

Keynesian economists believe the market economy tends toward the chronic underemployment or unemployment of resources, and requires wise management. and whether the topic is austerity, business cycles, debt, or a wide variety of other things, they're just dead wrong. And there is no better slayer of Keynesian errors than my guest, Bob Murphy.

Show notes for Ep. 1233

We hear on a regular basis that workers, whether because of free trade, or capitalism generally, or whatever other institution or trend, are getting the short end of the stick. An ever-smaller share of national income is making its way into workers' pockets. But is that really true? Gene Epstein joins me to get to the bottom of this question.

Show notes for Ep. 1232

With the abuse crisis exploding in recent weeks, culminating in the atomic bomb of a letter released by Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, I decided it was time for another bonus episode. My guests are Roger McCaffrey, president of Roman Catholic Books and founding publisher of The Latin Mass magazine, and Steve Skojec, publisher of the OnePeterFive blog.

Show notes for Ep. 1231

I've got a bunch of listeners who have some questions on economics that they feel like they should know the answers to, so they feel funny asking. In this episode we take some economics 101 questions and answer them at last.

Show notes for Ep. 1230

Jefferson biographer Kevin Gutzman, who just released a new course on Jefferson for my LibertyClassroom.com, joins me to discuss Jefferson's influences, his early political career, his extraordinary accomplishments even outside politics, and a lot more.

Show notes for Ep. 1229

I was delighted to be the special guest for the 100th episode of the Scottish Liberty Podcast, featuring Tom Laird, who runs the Scottish Libertarian Party, and Antony Sammeroff, who's such an effective defender of libertarian ideas. And what a variety of topics we hit -- including my five least favorite presidents. Enjoy!

Show notes for Ep. 1228

It's important to cut through the exaggerated platitudes to the heart of who John McCain was, lest a misplaced desire to carry on his "legacy" cause further harm to the United States and the world. Scott Horton joins me for this frank appraisal.

Show notes for Ep. 1227

Libertarian worlds collided earlier this month when Reason magazine editor-at-large Matt Welch joined me on Michael Malice's program. as you no doubt realize, there has been plenty of infighting among Libertarians and libertarian institutions over the years, and I think we hashed quite a bit of that out in a very productive conversation. In today's episode, Michael and I review and assess that mini-summit.

Show notes for Ep. 1226

Eric July, whose band Backwordz hit #1 in Billboard's Alternative New Artist category, joins me to discuss -- in addition to his epic battle with rapper Talib Kweli -- what libertarianism has to say to the black community, whether he feels oppressed every day (I ask him sincerely, since Talib feels oppressed every day), how he responds to accusations that he's betraying the black community by being a libertarian, and plenty more.

Eric was the emcee at my 1000th episode event; if you haven't seen it, make some popcorn and settle in for a fun night. tomwoods.com/1000

Show notes for Ep. 1225

The media went berserk recently over Cody Wilson and his Stoic defense of the publication of open-source gun designs suitable for 3D printing. We go beneath the surface and talk social media deplatforming, free speech, and Cody's ideological influences.

Show notes for Ep. 1224

If you let trolls get under your skin, you're doing it wrong. They are gifts. And you can profit from them. Ben Settle, my email marketing mentor and publisher of the Email Players newsletter, is one of the kings at this. Someone goes after Ben, and Ben turns around and makes sales from it. Now that's how it's done. Also joining me today is Shane Hunter, known as the Abrasive Entrepreneur. We talk about my recent exchange with rapper Talib Kweli, and how in general to handle attacks.

Show notes for Ep. 1223

Rachel Fulton Brown, a professor of medieval history at the University of Chicago who's been under assault by ideologically motivated peers, joins me for a discussion of her travails, yes, but also her new book, the ideological transformation of medieval studies, and more.

Show notes for Ep. 1222

Dedra Birzer of Hillsdale College joins me to discuss the works and views of Laura Ingalls Wilder and her daughter Rose Wilder Lane, who was an important libertarian writer in her own right. Wilder recently had her name removed from an important children's literature award by the American Library Association, so we begin with a discussion of that.

Show notes for Ep. 1221

Joshua Smith, who secured a spot on the Libertarian National Committee at the party's recent convention, joins me to discuss the party's present and future, the controversy with "libertarian socialists," and much more.

Show notes for Ep. 1220

Jeff Deist, former chief of staff to Ron Paul and current president of the Mises Institute, joins me to discuss how we should think about social media de-platforming and what it means (surely libertarians have something more to say than "they're private companies," as if we're never allowed to criticize private companies). We also discuss political correctness: maybe it wasn't just about politeness after all, and maybe it wasn't just a figment of the right-wing's imagination.

Show notes for Ep. 1219

Dr. Jamin Hubner joins me to discuss his Creative Common Law project, which serves as the legal blueprint for how a stateless society would function and deal with common problems.

Show notes for Ep. 1218

JW Weatherman joins me to discuss the problems with state education -- particularly in math, a subject people are essentially taught to hate -- and a thrilling way the private sector has just made it vastly better, more accessible, more effective, and more fun.

Show notes for Ep. 1217

What we learned in school: decentralization is stupid and backward, and the progressive way forward is for you stupid rubes to centralize power in the hands of your betters. This episode is the anti-that.

Show notes for Ep. 1216

Sara Young, a widely respected entrepreneur and teacher, was determined to make her living from her computer so she wouldn't have to leave her children home alone. That determination yielded her fantastic success, to the point that other moms who lived nearby urged her to teach them to do what she was doing. She wound up becoming an online teacher, helping many thousands of folks replicate her model. What she's up to today is particularly impressive -- and yes, can be replicated.

Show notes for Ep. 1215

Mark Thornton joins me to discuss his new book -- to which I contributed the foreword -- on the so-called "skyscraper curse" and Austrian business cycle theory, and how economists of the Austrian School have been able to spot oncoming crises to which other economists have been blind.

Show notes for Ep. 1214

Families Against Mandatory Minimums' Kevin Ring, who saw the problems with mandatory minimum sentences first hand, discusses a major injustice in the present system of sentencing.

Show notes for Ep. 1213

Are things going to stabilize or worsen on the major social media platforms? Michael Malice joins me to discuss the Alex Jones situation, and the nature of social media itself. Is the contentiousness and hostility we find there something that can be fixed, or might the whole project be based on a utopian premise -- just get everyone together, and we'll reach the truth?

Show notes for Ep. 1212

Historian Phil Magness joins me to discuss the controversy over Nancy MacLean's book Democracy in Chains, which claims to trace a massive racist, right-wing conspiracy back to -- of all people -- academic economist James Buchanan, who is associated with Public Choice economics. The book is so rife with error that MacLean finally had to respond to her critics.

Show notes for Ep. 1211

Alex Jones just got decapitated by Apple and other platforms, so I spend some time in today's episode unpacking what that means. I also take on left-liberals who think the problem with the Fed and the military is lack of diversity, and right-wingers who think capitalism is based on "materialism." Plenty of fun!

Show notes for Ep. 1210

Scott Pulsipher, president of Western Governors University, discusses his model for very inexpensive, outcome-based online education. We also address efforts by the inspector general of the Department of Education to throw a monkey wrench into the works (surprise).

Show notes for Ep. 1209

Janice Fiamengo, a professor of English at the University of Ottawa and an outspoken opponent of feminism, found herself brought before the Ottawa Human Rights Commission in a two-year ordeal related to alleged discrimination. She gives us a flavor of what these commissions are like, and how universities deal with accusations like this.

Show notes for Ep. 1208

Pat joins me to discuss the state of Russiagate, how the President should respond, what a President Buchanan would be doing, what's likely to happen in the fall elections, the state of the Democratic Party, and the kind of candidate Trump should hope for in 2020.

Show notes for Ep. 1207

Opponents of the free market had a field day in 2007/8: why, this collapse goes to show how unstable capitalism is! That's why I wrote my book Meltdown, which (thankfully) wound up spending 10 weeks on the New York Times bestseller list. We needed an Austrian (and not just generic free-market) response to this conventional wisdom. In this episode, I discuss the book with Lew Rockwell on his podcast.

Show notes for Ep. 1206

With libertarians being called "fascists" and even "Nazis" by so-called progressives, I thought it might be useful to review what Adolf Hitler himself believed about economic theory. You'll never guess: it turns out he prefers government control over a free market.

Show notes for Ep. 1205

In this libertarian podcasters' roundtable, we have a lively discussion about why we recently joined the Libertarian Party, what our plans are, and how we can know if we've succeeded. Fun!

Show notes for Ep. 1203

Emily Horowitz, a professor at St. Francis College in Brooklyn, was the overwhelming winner (measured objectively by audience opinions before and after) of a debate earlier this year at the Soho Forum on this very topic. Most people assumed no case could be made for her side, but by the time she was done, nearly three quarters of the room agreed with her. We discuss the subject in today's episode.

Show notes for Ep. 1202